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Poster: Telephone Toughguy Date: Apr 17, 2007 9:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: dose of reality

Actually, I had to do fingerprints and get a background check by the FBI to get my concealed weapon permit so I doubt government regulations can keep the whackos and criminals from getting guns. No mass murderer that I have heard goes through all that when they can get them on the black market. DC has the strictest gun control laws and look at their gun crime rate. The disease of crime is organic and is not created in a machine shop. If not guns it would be knives, if not knives clubs, if not clubs rocks, if not rocks bare hands. The problem is human not machine, animal and not mineral. The police should have shut down the school after the first shooting, perid. They should have also posted a squad car in clear site in the middle of the campus. That didn't happen and now a page 3 story is a world headline, sad but preventable without changing the constitution.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Apr 17, 2007 11:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: dose of reality

TT--

Couldn't agree more, re: human beings being violent and always weanting to kill each other somehow.
But that is exactly my point. Semi-automatic weapons make it much easier to do so and in greater numbers in a short amount of time.

You may WANT to kill as many people with a rock or a knife, but you'll find it a lot harder to kill as many as with a rapid fire weapon that pumps bullets into your victims in a matter of seconds.

I do believe people have the right to defend themselves and find it hard to argue that a small or elderly person wanting to protect their home shouldn't be allowed to own a handgun for that purpose, but when we get into "gun nut" territory where the refusal of banning or regulating ANY weapons, no matter how absurd the level of killing power, I have a real problem.

Again--hunters, responsible gun owners who take safety courses and allow for a fair waiting period and background check--fine with me, even if I myself choose not to go that route.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Apr 17, 2007 9:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: dose of reality

I sealed in grease and buried, watertight-an AK47 & M16 and a couple of pineapples that I easily returned from SEAsia in 1969- No handguns though.
(also brought back a speaker full of weed-that lasted thru 1971, boy did we party!)
If the shit really hits the fan, I'll dig that up, otherwise, peace on!